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Images 13 & 14 are of a British No. 214 Time fuze. However, this was in fact a No. 208 fuze manufactured in the U.S. (apparently it was originally to be designated No. 208 Mk. III) using a Junghams mechanism made by the Waterbury Clock Company of Connecticut (Waterbury became United States Time Corporation became Timex). No. 208 fuzes used a ‘Krupp – Thiel’ mechanism copied from captured German fuzes during WWI. This particular fuze was made by Illinois Ordnance Plant (IL)

TimG
 
Was that fuze designed to be used by the US or British? I was guessing this one specifically would be for US ordnance and the ones manufactured for the British would have either the correct nomenclature (208) or the 214 lines through.

Joe
 
Joe,

British use, apparently it was manufactured under the 'Lend-Lease' agreement. I suspect the decided not to call it 'No. 208 III' was that it had a totally different timer mechanism.

TimG
 
Pic #16 is the 5" Zuni Rocket Warhead,same profile as the APHE(Anti Personnel High Explosive) type.
Not seen one before in white , but have a blue one and seen plenty of blue painted to look 'like live'.

Bob
 
Hi US-Subs,
I've been doing catchup and noticed Post #342, pic 5 & 6 which looks like a Pfaust 150 grenade head or is it some NVA/VC concoction ? It is ICE-TEU-160-4 and -8. I just looked at some drawings I have also and would say it is exactly a Panzerfaust 150M FP150. I wish I could see that in the flesh !
Bill
 
That was my guess, but I've never actually seen one before, so was waiting to see if anyone commented on it. Actually, that and several hundred other pieces in this thread....
 
Hi US-Subs,
I've been doing catchup and noticed Post #342, pic 5 & 6 which looks like a Pfaust 150 grenade head or is it some NVA/VC concoction ? It is ICE-TEU-160-4 and -8. I just looked at some drawings I have also and would say it is exactly a Panzerfaust 150M FP150. I wish I could see that in the flesh !
Bill
It is the panzerfaust 150, see drawing
 

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Does anyone know the purpose of the blunt nose on APFSDS sub-projectile darts? I have an Israeli 40MM and a US 25MM APFSDS with a similar blunt tip as the 75MM APFSDS, US-SUBS shows above.

Jason
 
Does anyone know the purpose of the blunt nose on APFSDS sub-projectile darts? I have an Israeli 40MM and a US 25MM APFSDS with a similar blunt tip as the 75MM APFSDS, US-SUBS shows above.

Jason

It enables them to penetrate, minimising deflection. If the nose is sharpened to a point it is found there is a higher probability of the nose shearing and the whole projectile being deflected. Though blunt, the ballistic cross section area is still small enough not to adversely affect aerodynamic performance.




Tom.
 
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Does anyone know the purpose of the blunt nose on APFSDS sub-projectile darts? I have an Israeli 40MM and a US 25MM APFSDS with a similar blunt tip as the 75MM APFSDS, US-SUBS shows above.

Jason

Looks like its the wrong way round in the sabot from the photo.
Dave.
 
Thanks for the posts.
What calibre is this one.
I have a 17 pounder that looks just like this but the case for the one shown isn't a 17 pounder case.
Interesting that its not crimped into the case but sits over the top (that is how I understood the 17 pounder one to be also).
Dave.
 

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Thanks for the great explanation, Tom. That makes a lot of sense.

Dave, I think you may be correct about that!

Jason
 
Some unusual details on this one. The data page identifies the round as EXP A18, AP-T. It gives the diameter as 84mm. There are only two photos of the base of the case, both poor. I've shown the best and enlarged the center as much as possible to show that the markings are over stamped, but just above the primer it appears to be marked PA-7.

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