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Very good, thank you.
I've got one of those, but have to say I never understood what the point was - ?
The one you have shown is a British one. So they must have had them back in 1939 it seems.
A revised issue of the Military Training Pamphlet on the Liven's projector is dated 1941 and a Secret document "Chemical Warfare Pocket Book" is dated 1942 and has several references to Liven's Drums. Ditto DWS Notes on Ammunition printed in June 1942.
I understand (but cannot find the reference) that Liven's projectors and drums went to France in 1939/40 and were dumped at sea prior to the evacuation from Dunkirk. I should add of course that "The British Government had no intention of initiating the use of gas".
| The following British reports are from the time period 1939 - 1943 Bursters for Livens projectors: reports. Includes 16 photographs depicting: |
| Design of Livens drum: improvements to increase range |
| Comparative trials of Livens drum with various other bombs |
| Report on trials with Livens Drums charged HM fitted with various bursters and fired |
| Experiments with Livens projectors |
| Comparison of the 8 inch chemical projector (Livens) and the 8 inch chemical rocket as ... |
| Livens drum: trials of various bursters |
| Trials with air burst Liven's Drums charged mustard substitute |
| Vesicant charging of Livens drum projectors: performance trials |
| Charging, sealing and storage of Livens drums |
| Defective chemical weapons, charged: Livens drums |
| Livens projectors range table and wind correction graph |
| Concentrations of phosgene from a company shoot of Livens projectors |
| Gas charging of Livens drum projectors: performance trials |
Jeff, I always thought that it was a repurposing thing. I think it was the Marine Corps that did it as I remember. Someone had a bazillion 40mm projectiles, and they were able to stick them in a screw machine and thread the base so they would screw into a 2.75 inch warhead. I have one like that and I have an HE projectile that was threaded to use also. If they used an HE projectile, they could add to the HE and Frag capacity.
Brilliant example of the SP BU 37.........10 litre version i think.
Any idea on the grey drum? Is it Japanese?
Pete
Any idea on the grey drum? Is it Japanese?
Pete
The first projo is a U.S. Navy 5 inch 38 cal WP Smoke with an Army style lifting ring installed, which would never be issued that way as Navy ammo was issued with the fuzes installed and fuze protectors screwed on over the fuze.
Jeff,
On the 152mm Canister, it is shown broken apart above the rotating band. Can you describe the type of joint that holds the lower body to the upper skin at that location? It looks like it might have been a tapered joint with epoxy holding the two halves together, or was it a threaded joint? Any closeups of the joint details?
Jeff,
On the 152mm Canister, it is shown broken apart above the rotating band. Can you describe the type of joint that holds the lower body to the upper skin at that location? It looks like it might have been a tapered joint with epoxy holding the two halves together, or was it a threaded joint? Any closeups of the joint details?
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If you hold your cursor over the photo you should be able to see photo title - this will show you that the gray drum is SM-149 and the tag is the third photo in that group.
