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Francesco_Dif
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The grenade in the 4th pictures is a spanish "Calderon smoke practice"
Francesco_Dif
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It looks alike, but it is not a sipe. The italian Sipe has not a flat bottom as this one.
Francesco_Dif
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There are others versions of Calderone grenade: Illuminant, Smoke, FGO/FGS (Frag-smoke); maybe the grenade is one of this. The picture b/w is named "eai1", I dont know if it means something.
I knew the versions, but I've never seen that before. Thank you for your information.
"Se fabrican varios tipos de granadas "c" o caldern.
•Modelo C nmero 1, modelo "0": De guerra, de color verde, rotulada con letras en amarillo, y la espoleta de color verde rotulada en negro.
•Modelo C nmero 2, modelo "0": Fogueo. De color azul claro, rotulada con letras en rojo claro, la espoleta de color verde con palanca azul claro, con letras en rojo claro, solo lleva una pequea cantidad de plvora.
• Modelo C nmero 3, modelo "0": Inerte. De color negro o naranja, carece de carga explosiva.
• Modelo C nmero 4, modelo "O": De enseanza. De color verde. Esta seccionada, para poder estudiar sus distintos elementos.
• Iluminante: Para iluminar determinadas zonas
•Fumgena: Con distintos colores de humo (verde, 'amarillo, rojo o naranja) y funcionan en tierra y en agua.
•FGO: Granada de Guerra, a la vez de fragmentacin y fumgena, produciendo metralla y una nube de humo de caractersticas similares a los botes fumgenos de ocultacin
•FGS: Granada de Guerra, a la vez de fragmentacin y fumgena, produciendo metralla y una nube de humo de colores."
"Se fabrican varios tipos de granadas "c" o caldern.
•Modelo C nmero 1, modelo "0": De guerra, de color verde, rotulada con letras en amarillo, y la espoleta de color verde rotulada en negro.
•Modelo C nmero 2, modelo "0": Fogueo. De color azul claro, rotulada con letras en rojo claro, la espoleta de color verde con palanca azul claro, con letras en rojo claro, solo lleva una pequea cantidad de plvora.
• Modelo C nmero 3, modelo "0": Inerte. De color negro o naranja, carece de carga explosiva.
• Modelo C nmero 4, modelo "O": De enseanza. De color verde. Esta seccionada, para poder estudiar sus distintos elementos.
• Iluminante: Para iluminar determinadas zonas
•Fumgena: Con distintos colores de humo (verde, 'amarillo, rojo o naranja) y funcionan en tierra y en agua.
•FGO: Granada de Guerra, a la vez de fragmentacin y fumgena, produciendo metralla y una nube de humo de caractersticas similares a los botes fumgenos de ocultacin
•FGS: Granada de Guerra, a la vez de fragmentacin y fumgena, produciendo metralla y una nube de humo de colores."
Hello
This hand grenade is listed in my documentation as "Expal Hand Grenade, Model M6."
Apparently, it was an experimental prototype designed by Expal to replace standard-issue hand grenades. It didn't win the bid and was forgotten.
It is larger than the "Calderon" model hand grenade used by the Spanish Marines.
Greeting
This hand grenade is listed in my documentation as "Expal Hand Grenade, Model M6."
Apparently, it was an experimental prototype designed by Expal to replace standard-issue hand grenades. It didn't win the bid and was forgotten.
It is larger than the "Calderon" model hand grenade used by the Spanish Marines.
Greeting
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The one on the right is something that I got as neutralized item in 2023 or 2024 as "Unidentified Type", attached with a Frrench pattern fuze on it (see fotos).
Since this pattern of fuze had been used in a couple of different countries and it is not sure the the fuze is the original one or somebody had added it to make it more "pretty". Let´s not talk about the red sealing washer
. From the shape of the grenade body it is very similar to the Vietnamese jungle workshop types - could match since also the fuze had been found in this former French colony... .
Remarkable and not very common is the flat and very large base.
My hope is that the photos that I have added here will maybe help to refresh the topic again and maybe to identify.
Kind regards, R.
Since this pattern of fuze had been used in a couple of different countries and it is not sure the the fuze is the original one or somebody had added it to make it more "pretty". Let´s not talk about the red sealing washer
. From the shape of the grenade body it is very similar to the Vietnamese jungle workshop types - could match since also the fuze had been found in this former French colony... .Remarkable and not very common is the flat and very large base.
My hope is that the photos that I have added here will maybe help to refresh the topic again and maybe to identify.
Kind regards, R.
