Need ID

[zix013]

Hello everyone!
I have been following this interesting forum for a long time. The time has come that I need help identifying this landmine. It was found in the Danube River near Belgrade. The inspection confirmed that the mine contains explosives. Despite all our efforts, we have not been able to find out anything more, so we are asking for your help... Thx

 

[sgdbdr]

Hi,

This is the closest I have (italian language, sorry):


Cheers,

S.

 

[MINENAZ16]

Known as M39 (pressure fuze with "french" design)

 

[zix013]

Yes. That's it. Meanwhile, I also found this information in "TM 5-280, Foreign Mine Warfare Equipment". It seems that the Kingdom of Yugoslavia produced this mine under an Italian license. I'll try to persuade the guys from the EOD team not to destroy it, but to consider the possibility of delaboration. Thank you very much for the information and I wish you all the best...

 

[stecol]

It seems that the Kingdom of Yugoslavia produced this mine under an Italian license.

Where did you find this info, please ?

Italy didn't have anything like this landmine at that time.

Regards
stecol

 

[zix013]

My fault. I quickly thought that the description posted by sgdbdr described an Italian mine. When I translated the text, I saw that it describes a Yugoslav mine. It seems to be the original design after all. Sorry...

 

[stecol]

No matter, don't worry.

It would have been interesting news, but the text is in Italian only because I think they were the only ones to reuse them.
The Regio Esercito's hunger for anti-tank mines was known, any device was used .... Italian, german, hungarian, french, british .....

Regards
stecol

 

[Ivashkin]

My fault. I quickly thought that the description posted by sgdbdr described an Italian mine. When I translated the text, I saw that it describes a Yugoslav mine. It seems to be the original design after all. Sorry...

It is original Kingdom anti-tank mine and in Serbian archive possible to find information about it (with blueprints and so on). Unfortunatly no time for Serbiah military historic (I know him personally) to write article about this mine.
I have only one Yugoslavia book, where showed this mine, just general view. Book published in 1947. Probably after WW2 quantity of this mine on ex-Kingdom storages were so small and from Allies got much more modern mines, that decided do not describe this mine in original books.
Also I have soviet archive paper with this mine, dated 1945 year. And this mine did not come to Soviet books too.

 

[G1u53pp3]

It is original Kingdom anti-tank mine and in Serbian archive possible to find information about it (with blueprints and so on). Unfortunatly no time for Serbiah military historic (I know him personally) to write article about this mine.
I have only one Yugoslavia book, where showed this mine, just general view. Book published in 1947. Probably after WW2 quantity of this mine on ex-Kingdom storages were so small and from Allies got much more modern mines, that decided do not describe this mine in original books.
Also I have soviet archive paper with this mine, dated 1945 year. And this mine did not come to Soviet books too.

Which Serbian archive are you talking about? I'm interested. Thanks

 

[Dreamk]

The Serbian Military Archive in Belgrade has a lot of very exciting documents (I have gathered some of the references on aviation bombs that can be found tehre and I'd love to get a copy of them) - but it is not digital and physical access to is more than limited for a non Serbian citizen - I thought of going and visit it but have renounced.

For info these are the rules of access for foreign citizens - quite siliar to the ones in teh former Soviet Union at its worst times:

"The military Archive is not authorized to have a direct communication with foreign legal and physical entities.

Foreign citizens, who would like to use the archival materials of the Military Archive, submit an application to the Diplomatic and Consular Office of the Republic of Serbia in their country or their Diplomatic and Consular Office in the Republic of Serbia.

The received application is submitted to the Office of the Minister of Defense for approval.

When a foreign researcher visits a scientific institution of the Republic of Serbia and submits an application to that institution or directly to the Military Archives, his application with the opinion will be submitted to the Cabinet of the Minister of Defense.

If a foreign researcher does not speak Serbian language, he/she should provide a translator.

etc...etc...

Here's the link to their home page:

Војни архив

 

[G1u53pp3]

The Serbian Military Archive in Belgrade has a lot of very exciting documents (I have gathered some of the references on aviation bombs that can be found tehre and I'd love to get a copy of them) - but it is not digital and physical access to is more than limited for a non Serbian citizen - I thought of going and visit it but have renounced.

For info these are the rules of access for foreign citizens - quite siliar to the ones in teh former Soviet Union at its worst times:

"The military Archive is not authorized to have a direct communication with foreign legal and physical entities.

Foreign citizens, who would like to use the archival materials of the Military Archive, submit an application to the Diplomatic and Consular Office of the Republic of Serbia in their country or their Diplomatic and Consular Office in the Republic of Serbia.

The received application is submitted to the Office of the Minister of Defense for approval.

When a foreign researcher visits a scientific institution of the Republic of Serbia and submits an application to that institution or directly to the Military Archives, his application with the opinion will be submitted to the Cabinet of the Minister of Defense.

If a foreign researcher does not speak Serbian language, he/she should provide a translator.

etc...etc...

Here's the link to their home page:

Војни архив

Thank you you were very kind!