m1913 German defensive discus grenade

[dano1917]

defensive discus question

This is a pretty basic question, but this is something i've been curious about for a while. In the thumbnail I know the defensive discus on the right with the alloy core is model 1913. My question is the defensive discus on the left with the steel core, is it also model 1913 or model 1913na or would it be a model 1915 as it shares a similar core with the offensive model 1915 discus (bottom). I hope i'm clear here and someone may help me...Dano

 

[dano1917]

m1915 defensive discus

Hi, attached is drawings of m1913 German defensive discus with alloy guts..Dano

 

[HumanBonb]

Hello,
Why you speak grenade model 1913?
Do you have any documentation referring to this date?

For me, the turtle grenades appeared in 1915 and not before.

Thanks.

 

[deepsea]

Hi, the MG34NZ defensive model seems to fit the inside of the offensive pattern.
I found on the field, 3 different offensive models, different on the inside igniter.
On the left the removable iron, on the center the one piece aluminium alloy, on the right the zama alloy (krieg metal).
Regards