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Identification project

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I'm working on a project, and have a large amount of ordnance to identify. Some I simply haven't found yet, others are a bit more challenging. Any help is appreciated. Here are three grenades to begin with.
 

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My thoughts on the second are that the fit and finish are too good for Vietnam, it has the feel of an early Russian or satellite, but I’ve never seen it before.
I agree that your example for the first is a match, but what is it? I’ve seen it before also, but have no idea where.
 
Here is another piece, a repainted German 10.5cm, but I cannot find the model (using Belot). The boat tail and length don’t match anything I’m seeing. Anyone?
 

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Here is another piece, a repainted German 10.5cm, but I cannot find the model (using Belot). The boat tail and length don’t match anything I’m seeing. Anyone?
When you see a FEW band on German shell, you can pay for a captured gun.
It's a 10cm GR HL Few (t) (for captured czech gun)

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Thanks, so that one will stay with an "unknown" label.
 
I’ve seen this piece before in tan color. I’ve had two people tell me they have seen a document, but don’t know where or whose.
 

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I’ve seen this piece before in tan color. I’ve had two people tell me they have seen a document, but don’t know where or whose.
This large item was initially thought to be a mine or demolition charge. With a little disassembly however, there is a large electronics package taking up much of the base. It has a tag that cannot be read, and three fold out legs. A few Cyrillic markings and the word “control” , also Cyrillic, can be seen. Anyone recognize it? Sorry for photo orientation, working off my phone.
 

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I’ve seen this piece before in tan color. I’ve had two people tell me they have seen a document, but don’t know where or whose.
In the 1970s there were a number of cases in Israel where terrorists placed such small mines in crowded places.
Ths is an AP small diameter mine who due to its shape is called "button mine".

This ordnance is a blast anti-personnel pressure mine of probable swiss design and manufacturing.
This very little mine of unknown model has a disc-shaped plastic casing containing 8.6 grams of PETN and an internal firing pin placed at the bottom of the detonator compartment.
It is built of two halves.

In the center of the top there is a groove that surrounds the firing pin compartment.
The detonator well is closed by a screw cap, the head of which has a groove.
Probably the bottom of the mine can act as a Belleville spring.

This mine has a diameter of 44.5 mm, overall height 15 mm, body height 11 mm and a total weight of 13.2 grams, but despite its size it has been found to be very efficient.
It would appear to have been in service in Egypt.

Regards
stecol
 

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Next up, the missile on the right is clearly the 9M112M2, which of the variants is the one to the left (center)?
 

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Jeff, I found info on the grenade that is ball shaped with a soviet fuze. It is a home made grenade just for fun, using tin bowl at bottom and a France OF grenade top, fuze is loctirtedin. A guy named Josel Rassart made it. And I jus noticed he post just above me.

Made from a tin container, and a French OF sheath, and Russian lighter and loctite, more than 20 years ago, for "fun", weighted with sand, was sold it at the flea market of the Lille flea market, a long time ago!! It's quite incredible to see it again here, a unique example in the world, see the photo below!! Lol

Joel Rassart
 
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