6pdr AP manufacture stamps

[Quatermass]

stampings on the side of the shell

(a) Steel maker's code letters and cast number.
(b) Calibre and Mark.
(c) C.S. if cast steel, B.S. if bar steel.
(d) Manufacurer's initials or recognized trade mark.
(e) Lot number of empty projectile.

Source: Handbook for the Ordnance, Q.F. 6-PR. 7-CWT., Mark II. 1942

 

[RichardB]

Did anyone hazzard a guess as to why there are no coloured bands...is it a re-paint or were coloured bands only introduced after mass production started?...or did New Crown Forgings make it for the Americans? - Is that possible, would it also explain the American-esqe driving bands?

both wild guesses tbh )....but may provoke interest !

 

[David]

Thank you, TimG and Quatermass, for your help on the markings on our solid shot.

 

[2pounder]

Belfast shell makers

I have these but would like confirmation if possible;

RC R Craig and Sons,WCACombe, Barbour & Combe WCJW Barlow & Sons (K) WCKJohn Andrews & Co WCLHenry Campbell & Co Ltd

 

[2pounder]

belfast makers

Woops, my cut and paste jumbled it on posting, have these as Belfast shell makers
WCA is Coombe, Barbour & Combe. WCJ is W Barlow & Sons. WCK is John Andrews and Co. WCL is Henry Campbell & Co Ltd.

 

[StielGr]

NCF = New Crown Forgings Ltd,

Thank you for the information 2pounder.
I had assumed after Tim's post that the stamp would follow the pattern of company initials. Whereas when you look at the Belfast company codes it seems to follow a prefixed sequence.
For example WC and then A

It may be that this sequence is just a coincidence, but the obvious thing is the letters are not the company initials.

PC

 

[TimG]

Paul,

The undermentioned are WWI Belfast shell makers. The 'WC' prefix denotes that the companies manufacturing the shells were undertaking sub-contract work for Workman Clark.

John Andrews & Co., Ltd., Belfast.

(K)WCK
BT

W. Barlow & Sons. Belfast.

WCJ
BT

Henry Campbell & Co., Ltd 41, Royql Avenue, Belfast.

WCL
BT

Chambers Motors, Ltd., 106, University Street, Belfast.

CM
BT

Combe, Barbour & Combe, Falls Foundry, Belfast.

WCA
BT

R. Craig & Sons, 13, Great Georges Street, Belfast.

RC
BT

Durham Street Weaving Co, Durham Street Mills, Belfast.

DS
BT

Great Northern Railway Co.,(?) Dundalk.

WCF
BT

J. Mackie & Sons, Ltd., Albert Foundry, Springfield Road, Belfast.

JM
BT

Midland Railway Co., Belfast.

WCE
BT

Millfield Foundry, Belfast.

WCD
BT

J. Reynolds & Co., Ltd., Linfield Foundry, Belfast.

JR
BT

Ross Bros., Ltd., Bloomfield Factory, Connswater, Belfast.

RB
BT

Stephen Cotton & Co., Ltd., Brookfield Foundry, Belfast.

SC
BT

Travers & Co., Britannia Works, Springfield Road, Belfast.

(B) or
WCB (sub-contract to Workman Clark)
BT

Workman Clark & Co., Belfast Shipyard, Spencer Basin, Belfast.

WCC
BT

York Street Flax Spinning Co., York Street, Belfast. n/k

I know you wanted WWII manufacturers, but at the moment my computer is somewhat ill and as a consequence I can't search against WWII listings to see if any of these companies were manufacturing warlike stores in that conflict.

Regards

TimG.