2 inch Mortar makers.

[tigbrand]

Can anyone ID the following please?
Mk 1 HE body , JG 1942 date No logo
No 2 fins ADC 1942
No 3 steel fins BIC 1943
No 2 fins K 1941
No 3 fins 1942, Logo in attached picture
Thanks Tig.

 

[Snufkin]

JG - James Gibbons Ltd, Wolverhampton.
ADC - Avon Die-Casting Co. Ltd, Birmingham.
BIC - British Insulated Cables Ltd, Prescot, Lancs.
HTW logo - Henley's Telegraph Works Co. Ltd, Dorking, Surrey.

A few possibilities for K, so an image of the letter might help narrow it down:
Kay and Co. (Engineers) Ltd, Bolton;
George Kent, London;
Knowles Ltd, Bolton;
Kenrick, Wolverhampton - if there are three stars around the K.


Tom.

 

[tigbrand]

Excellent information Tom. I am creating a Reference gallery for my 2" mortar collection on here, this should aid iD in the future for members.
Picture of K logo attached. Can you please remind me of S&W? Thanks Tig.

 

[Snufkin]

The K has three little stars between the arms, so Kenrick and Sons Ltd, West Bromwich.

S&W is Scoffin and Willmott, Barking, Essex.

 

[TimG]

Being pedantic the it's not HTW but WTH. Their correct name being W.T. Henley Telegraph Works Ltd, presumably a deliberate palindrome. Their works were in North Woolwich and the head office in High Holborn. With the commencement of war, the management relocated to Milton Court, Wescott, Dorking (went there on a Heritage Open Day). They were responsible for the lead sheathing on PLUTO and making anti-magnetic mine equipment. Some of us of a certain age probably used and burnt ourselves with their 'Solon' soldering irons.

TimG

 

[tigbrand]

Thanks for the extra info Tom and Tim! I am adding the info to the pictures in my 2" reference gallery.
Here's a few more and loads more to go yet.
D.E.I.L 1943, Canadian I think. 2" body
NS Co 1942 2" body
F&W nose plug steel. 1941
BO/C 1945 Filling station Canada??
BELL nose plug steel 1943

 

[Snufkin]

DEIL - possibly Dominion Electrohome Industries Ltd, Ontario, Canada (otherwise DE);
NS Co. - possibly National Steel Car Corporation, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (otherwise NSC)
F&W - possibly Frost and Wood, Ontario, Canada, although the company monogram was just FW on No.36 grenades;
BO/C - Defence Industries Ltd, Canada (possibly denoting the explosives plant at Beloeil);
BELL - British Electric Lamps, Wimbledon.

Tim will hopefully confirm or correct.

 

[TimG]

Tig,

Here are some I've prepared earlier. https://www.bocn.co.uk/threads/2-mortar-markings.4493/post-264458

DEIL - Is Electrohome - they manufactured radiograms and kindred.
BO/C - Defence Industries, Ltd., Bouchard, Canada.

TimG

 

[BMG50]

Seen a mazak fin marked Kenrick, rare to find. Latest date on a mazak fin is 1945.

 

[tigbrand]

Thanks for the replies chaps. Will add the information to my gallery. I'm sure I have seen f and w on 25 pounder transit plugs too? Could it be British? There are 2 Kendrick fins in my gallery so far, so not that rare! Cheers Tig.

 

[Gspragge]

A couple of images of markings on mine.

 

[BMG50]

What i would like to see as a Two inch collector is the paint markings on HE, smoke WP, star and illum rounds.

 

[Alan1]

Here is my small collection of 2" natures, top line are all wartime, the other two are '50s, but I kept them as reasonable condition examples. rest of post war kit I moved on, eg para illum with white body etc etc. I really finish at about 1946 - but not religiously so. For those looking askance at what seems to be an HE with remnant fuze, relax. Heavily stamped "DUMMY".
Also the ammn pages from Handbook for the Ordnance, M.L. 2-inch Mortar, Marks II* right through to VIII* and dated 1944.
Thought I had posted that before, but it might help BMG50.
Also have JSP 316, Markings of Ammunition and Associated Packages, Joint Services, amended to Jan 88, and this does cover 2" mortar, by then well on the way to obsolescence as the 51mil was coming in, and it seems that all natures of bomb were still a store.
Alan1.

 

[Alan1]

Last page.

 

[tigbrand]

Thanks for the extra information and photos chaps . Here's a few more makers to ID, RC, Raleigh cycles? AEM on 161 fuze, RCB on no 4 fins, 11MB, Metal box but cant find the previously posted list on here with number of factory. W&W on 2" para illum body. Still looking to confirm Atelor? Cheers Tig.

 

[TimG]

RC - Raleigh Cycles Co., Nottingham.
AEM - Aron Electricity Meters, London, NW6
RCB - n/t?
11MB - Metal Box Co., Hodgsons, Newcastle.
W&W - might be - Wilkins & Wright, Utility Works, Holyhead Road, Birmingham.

TimG

 

[Snufkin]

RCB - Radio Chassis Ltd, Bradford.

 

[tigbrand]

Great information, thanks very much to you both, Tig.

 

[tigbrand]

Tim, would W and W, Wilkins and Wright have been metalworkers? The filler is wilders so the w&w would be the maker of the body???