WW2 Soviet T4 mine

[madoc44]

Hi

I 'm looking for all informations,and pics(color ones will be very apreciated)about a T4 SOVIET MINE.
Someone say it's a practical one,others a real tankmine.?????
I try to know the right color of this mine.
http://www.lexpev.nl/minesandcharges/sovietbalkan/russia/t4.html
This one,on Lexpev site is repaint in green,but I don't think so it was the right one.Someone can help me ?
Thanks so much and Merry Christmas:tinysmile_shy_t:

 

[Ivashkin]

Look here on web-site my article about practice version of this mine - http://saperka.ru/tankovaya-uchebnaya-mina-t-iv-t-4-the-soviet-anti-tank-educational-mine-t-iv-t-4
I have another information, but in paper - I was making copy from old magazines and manual.
T-4 or T-IV exist in practice and arm versions. Colours could be different, but all of them - green. Difference just in shade.

 

[madoc44]

Hello Ivashkin
Thanks so much for your help and all your great informations.I have "found" a T4 ,a dug up one,but in good condition.Before its restoration,I need all info as possible.About the color,what kind of green?Can I use a green such as a RGD33,or a darker one ?
For the woodden pressure plate,have you the right measures of it ?
Take a look on these pics,and could you tell me what type is this T4.
Once again,thanks so much for all your help.

 

[Ivashkin]

Hello Ivashkin
Thanks so much for your help and all your great informations.I have "found" a T4 ,a dug up one,but in good condition.Before its restoration,I need all info as possible.About the color,what kind of green?Can I use a green such as a RGD33,or a darker one ?
For the woodden pressure plate,have you the right measures of it ?
Take a look on these pics,and could you tell me what type is this T4.
Once again,thanks so much for all your help.

You found T-4 in France, am I right????
Colour....mmmm I think you can use such as a RGD-33.
Size of pressure plate - 200x200 mm.
No difference betwee arm and practiсe versions of this mine. They looks like the same, but inside arm has TNT, practice has imitation charge.I haven`t heard any example, when found this charge. It`s like mines PMD-6 and PMD-6M and fuzes MUV. They are and practice and arm in the same situation)))
Interesting moment about this mine next: in Manual talks only about fire practice mine, but in the same moment author on this mine in his article (you can see on web-site) wrote and electrical practice mine. It is a bit higher. But I haven`t heared about this mine.
By the way, you have exactly T-IV. Exist mine T-IV and T-IVs (T-IVс). Difference between them - T-IVs has wooden pressure plate.About it talks in manual for TM-35.

 

[madoc44]

No I don't found this mine in France.It's a friend of mine who send to me.In France ,we have found RGD33 and shell round,dug up,but mines are very rare.
About this mine,you say it's a real T4.I don't understand the differences between the different types.All the T4 haven't all a wooden pressure plate?
My type is one model,the model you can see on lexpev,is different.It has an handle and a hole for the fuse in the front side.
http://www.lexpev.nl/minesandcharges/sovietbalkan/russia/t4.html
And another model here:
http://www.primeportal.net/armory/yuri_pasholok/t-4_anti-tank_mine/
What do you think about that....

 

[Ivashkin]

No I don't found this mine in France.It's a friend of mine who send to me.In France ,we have found RGD33 and shell round,dug up,but mines are very rare.
About this mine,you say it's a real T4.I don't understand the differences between the different types.All the T4 haven't all a wooden pressure plate?
My type is one model,the model you can see on lexpev,is different.It has an handle and a hole for the fuse in the front side.
http://www.lexpev.nl/minesandcharges/sovietbalkan/russia/t4.html
And another model here:
http://www.primeportal.net/armory/yuri_pasholok/t-4_anti-tank_mine/
What do you think about that....

Ther`re photos just from some web-site who only made them in Sankt-Petersburg museum.
Mines are the same. What the strange? As I told you - T-IV exists in wooden and metal bodys. You have metal and it calls T-IV, with wooden calls T-IVs.

 

[Ivashkin]

And one more. T-IV isn`t WWII mine It appeared much more earlier, as started WWII or Great War