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WW1 French gas grenade.
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MissingSomething
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dano1917
RIP
suffocant 1914 "stinkbombe"
As MissingSomething mentioned there were at least three French WW1 asphyxiant grenades. This is a picture of a French suffocant unrestored (model 1914) that was in my collection for 5 years, now sadly gone. The Bertrand model 1915 has been reproduced to the point where I would not trust one, unless you get it cheap and don't mind having a pretty good repro. To the best of my knowledge the m1914 and 1916 suffocants have yet to be reproduced.......Dano
As MissingSomething mentioned there were at least three French WW1 asphyxiant grenades. This is a picture of a French suffocant unrestored (model 1914) that was in my collection for 5 years, now sadly gone. The Bertrand model 1915 has been reproduced to the point where I would not trust one, unless you get it cheap and don't mind having a pretty good repro. To the best of my knowledge the m1914 and 1916 suffocants have yet to be reproduced.......Dano
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Der_Feldgraue
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So they copy handgrenades now too? Unbelieveable... 
Hey Dano,
Just so you know your old M1914 grenade is in safe hands with another Forum member, I'm holding it as I type this reply.
I bought a few items from a fellow in St. Louis during a visit last Spring. I'd been tipped off by another buddy who saw some of your pieces at Tulsa. I caught up with them a couple weeks later and the gas grenade was my favorite of the grenades acquired. Rest assured it is appreciated and a nice addition to my collection.
Rick
Just so you know your old M1914 grenade is in safe hands with another Forum member, I'm holding it as I type this reply.
I bought a few items from a fellow in St. Louis during a visit last Spring. I'd been tipped off by another buddy who saw some of your pieces at Tulsa. I caught up with them a couple weeks later and the gas grenade was my favorite of the grenades acquired. Rest assured it is appreciated and a nice addition to my collection.
Rick
Trenchwarfare
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If it has any monetary value at all, it's being reproduced/faked. Especially now, that technology, has caught up with cheap labor. Even though there may be millions of them still around.:tinysmile_angry2_t:So they copy handgrenades now too? Unbelieveable...
Hi,
Here some pics of Suffocante 1916 from my friend web; (http://amunicja.nazwa.pl/rp/index.php?k=granaty_fr)
Regards.
Here some pics of Suffocante 1916 from my friend web; (http://amunicja.nazwa.pl/rp/index.php?k=granaty_fr)
Regards.
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dano1917
RIP
Another good home
Hi Rick, It is so nice to know that some of the stuff I sold a while back has found good homes. That was one of my fav's also and not so easy to find..Enjoy..Dano
Chemical grenade questions
Hi all,
Thanks for those replies, it has certainly been informative. My first thoughts about the the use of such devices is that it must have been risky to use these grenades in relatively close-quarters to the user. Unless they were only used under certain conditions? Also did the British have such devices?
Regs
Cirus
Hi all,
Thanks for those replies, it has certainly been informative. My first thoughts about the the use of such devices is that it must have been risky to use these grenades in relatively close-quarters to the user. Unless they were only used under certain conditions? Also did the British have such devices?
Regs
Cirus
Yep, the British had the No 28 and No 33 grenades.
First pic - No 28
Second pic - 2 different unknown models of British chemical grenades
Third pic - No 33
If anyone has any info or other pics of the unknown models i'd be interested in seeing them.
Pete
First pic - No 28
Second pic - 2 different unknown models of British chemical grenades
Third pic - No 33
If anyone has any info or other pics of the unknown models i'd be interested in seeing them.
Pete
Hi Pete,
The second photo, photo 2 is a German one from ww2 Hgr 41 Ws :tinysmile_shy_t:
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/german-chem-grenade-t41011.html?t=41011
The second photo, photo 2 is a German one from ww2 Hgr 41 Ws :tinysmile_shy_t:
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/german-chem-grenade-t41011.html?t=41011
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Well spotted Jack, now that i look hard at it i can see it's the same item.
Any ideas on the picture above it?
Pete
Any ideas on the picture above it?
Pete
Hi Pete,
No not at the moment :neutral:
Must have a look around on the hard drive :tinysmile_shy_t:
No not at the moment :neutral:
Must have a look around on the hard drive :tinysmile_shy_t:
MoragTheHag
New Member
French Gas Grenade
Here's little Bertie!
Here's little Bertie!
I think you've seen my photos of it already Pete - or know where to find them.
Megan, are you collecting now?
jeeeensy
Well-Known Member
and also this German one ( just realised the post was for French grens) ,,, quite rare to find, came in 2 types
Depending on filling it could be either and was marked so,,
It looked the same as the Asphyxient chemicle gren but with a
filler plug in the bottom.
regards Nick,
Depending on filling it could be either and was marked so,,
It looked the same as the Asphyxient chemicle gren but with a
filler plug in the bottom.
regards Nick,
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paul the grenade
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dano1917
RIP
Nice rare WWI German grenade Nick. Really like that one, plenty rare also. It is the incendiary model distinguished from the asphyxiant by the base extention and screw. A small powder charge ruptured the case, igniting and spraying the liquid. This one could also be a smoke charge and would have "NEBEL" on the body in white letters. I have pictured one I no longer have. This one did not hurt me to off because like so many of them (not that there are that many!) had been rebuilt with some sort of body filler due to the bodies rusting. Defo a sought after piece. ...Dano
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The vast majority of the WW1 gas grenades were tear gas types & not the poison gases like mustard or phosgene etc . The fillings were liquids like Stannic Chloride or Ethyl Iodoacatate . Though poisonous , they were usually to weak to damage lungs & were used mainly for their lachrymatory properties . These fillings were also used in some of the normal grenades not often associated with chemical types.
dano1917
RIP
That brings to mind something that i've often wondered about. What was the WWI German incendiary grenade filled with? Some sort of early napalm? Curiosity has got me on this one...Dano