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Unknown Firing Device

jvollenberg

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Here is an unknown firing device from an unknown country. Any ideas?

Dia: 12-MM
Length: 56-MM Complete
Length of just the fuze without the removable pull portion: 45-MM

There are no markings at all on the fuze.

Joe
 

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This is the firing device that is issued together only with the german "Leuchtkoerper, Boden, DM 16B1". This is a perimeter defence, pyrotechnic anti intrusion device. The WW2 firing device is very similar and the russians copied the german WW2 device 1 to 1. They still were being issued in the 80s. I do not know if they are still current issue. This device is quite dangerous to set. It has a very powerful spring and any small movement of the holed small brassplate will set it off. That's why it is issued with the quite long line pictured to remove the safety needle. The trip wire will be fastened through the big hole in the small brass holding-plate.
Regards,
Bellifortis.
 
I noticed when we took the pictures of the device that it was very sensitive.

Do you have a picture of the DM 16B1?

Joe
 
Hi Joe It was nice meeting you in Belgium.
The firing device was used on the DM 16 and DM 16B1 and was also used in the Dutch army and yes extremely sensitive, once placed you had too use it and not pick it up again because it was to dangerous.
 

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Thank you, and it was nice meeting everyone there as well.

Interesting, I thought the safety pin was just added on by the guys I got it from.

Does anyone know what the F Factory Code is?

Joe
 
The WW2 firing device is very similar and the russians copied the german WW2 device 1 to 1. They still were being issued in the 80s. I do not know if they are still current issue.
USSR never copied this fuze. I think you mean Czechoslovak fuze, but exactly not Soviet!
 
Thank you Ivashkin that you corrected my mistake. Yes, the copy is Czecheslovakian. when I first saw this many year ago, I was mistakenly told it's russian. Attached are photos of 1. The czecheslovakian copy of the WW2 german device pistol 2. dummy DM 16 B1 trip-flare with an issue type lid beside it. It is assembled with a newer type experimental fuze that I think has never become an issue item 3. and 4. The instructional leaflet for the DM 16 trip-flare 5. original package of the dummy with a package of the experimental fuze below.
Regards,
Bellifortis.
 

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I think that F stands for "FEISTEL". When the owner died, the factory was sold to Piepenbrock company and renamed PPF (Piepenbrock Pyrotechnische Fabriken). This again was sold to a nother company "Comet" some years ago and finally closed down completely. The changes in world politics in 1989 made many companies that produced items for the military lose a lots of buisiness so many closed down.
Thank you, and it was nice meeting everyone there as well.

Interesting, I thought the safety pin was just added on by the guys I got it from.

Does anyone know what the F Factory Code is?

Joe
 
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