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Unknown 7.62 NATO
- Thread starter smle2009
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The Czech "7.62 ZV 69" (blackened primer, black PA, no CM seal) and 70 (brass colored primer, red PA with 3x120 crimp, no CM seal) and all have head stamps. The Czechoslovak earliest known production is the "7.62x51 T65" (designation on the box) and the hs is "7.62 ZV 66" with a blackened primer, black PA and no CM seal.
I think the one above is likely to be something else.
I think the one above is likely to be something else.
Chip Orr has that exact same cartridge on his site and he cataloged it as "Country Unknown". I looked at every map that I have and could not find a country named Unknown. ;-)
If Chip doesn't know where it's from it's going to take some real searching to find out. Maybe NATO Dave knows.??
Ray
If Chip doesn't know where it's from it's going to take some real searching to find out. Maybe NATO Dave knows.??
Ray
Jon, interesting to hear. Is there any detailed info available?
I sent the link to NatoDave and he is thinking it looks an awful lot like a similar round with a 10 70 headstamp. Perhaps it is Bulgarian. He should be along later.
I just went back to my logs and checked. The primer crimps and seal colors on my Czech(?) rounds are different than the round posted above. I nod to David on this one.
Alex, there have been some short articles published on some of the odd ammo found in Cambodia. Some might be found linked to the IAA Forum. I will have to dig to see if I can find any here. I might not be remembering correctly, but I believe the calibers were .30-06, 7.5, 7.62, 7.65 MAS pistol, and 9x19.
I just went back to my logs and checked. The primer crimps and seal colors on my Czech(?) rounds are different than the round posted above. I nod to David on this one.
Alex, there have been some short articles published on some of the odd ammo found in Cambodia. Some might be found linked to the IAA Forum. I will have to dig to see if I can find any here. I might not be remembering correctly, but I believe the calibers were .30-06, 7.5, 7.62, 7.65 MAS pistol, and 9x19.
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Jon, thanks a lot! Were there articles in the IAA bulletin?
Yes, copper clad steel (besides brass). There were 2 types of boxes, one with green printing in English and one with black printing in Spanish.
I have an example of the cartridge in my collection. It looks very similar (neck crimp, primer and primer stakes) to a brass cased ball round with a 10 70 headstamp (as Jonny C says) which suggests Bulgarian made. However, all other 7.62x51mm cartridges with the 10 headstamp that I've seen have copper wased steel cases.
NATO Dave
NATO Dave