UK firearms control today 20th Dec

[L4KEV]

The Commons Home Affairs Committee published it's report into firearms control today 20th Dec.
UK Sec 1 ,Shotgun or owners of deactivated weapons may want to read the report (PDF file) by clicking the hyperlink entitled - Report: Firearms Control
On this government site -
http://www.parliament.uk/business/c...fairs-committee/news/101220-firearms-control/
Please make others aware of this report who may be affected by recomendations that might pass into legislation at a future date.

atb Kevin

 

[TonyE]

Firearms control

The parliamentary debate on firearms control was held last evening, an unfortunate piece of timing since it gave little opportunity for members to read and consider the Select Committee report which was only published yesterday morning.

I await the reports of the debate with interest, not least to know how many members attended. However, there seems little appetite in government to make any major changes to the current law in this parliament.

Regards
TonyE

 

[Darrol]

no matter what they do and change in the law regarding firearms deactivated . .legaly owned . . or replicas the criminal eliment will always obtain them illegaly from abroad or made from scratch as in ireland by the i r a .the goverment is as normal aproching the problem from the wrong direction .the last change when they banned semi auto sending many collectors and shooters guns into a market which was open to criminals . Darrol.

 

[TonyE]

Firearms Law

I agree with your point in general, but the ban on semi auto rifles was back in 1988. I do not quite understand what you mean by sending legal guns into the hands of criminals. The last change was when they took away our pistols.

Although nothing has been announced since the consultation period, I personally think it unlikely that there will be any change of consequence to the deactivted law, as there are just too many in circulation. They could take a "grandfather" approach and ban any further deactivation whilst allowing existing deactivated weapons to be held, but I think it unlikely.

Possible changes to the law pertaining to legitimate use of working firearms are more worrying, although again I do not see any will on the part of the government to make major changes.

Regards
TonyE

 

[Darrol]

hi TonyE .i was on about the bans they keep bringing out in general . .from the pistol ban and the semiauto and mag size thats not stopped criminals doing what they do .i went in woolworths a couple of years back and you had to be 18 to buy a orange and green stripy toy pistol that made electronic gun sounds .the laws gone mad and demonised firearms to the point they edit them out of tv programs cartoons music videos and movies .the law also included all airsoft be made of either clear plastic or bright colours unless youre with a sociaty for scermish or airsoft for reinactment.whats stopping a criminal buying a can of black spraypaint .its just plain stupidity of the goverment.regards Darrol:tinysmile_classes_t

 

[peregrinvs]

As regards deactivated guns - my area of interest - I think a few things need clarifying about their recommendations:

- Does the 'requirement' to convert apply to literally all pre-1995 deacts, or only those where the specification substantially changed? (SMGs and assault rifles)

- Is the requirement to convert to the post-95 spec a condition of continued ownership or a condition of sale / transfer?

- As making it a condition of continued ownership effectively means forcing people to pay to damage and devalue their private property, will the government pay for the conversion work or pay compensation to owners? (I assume the legislation will be structured to avoid such a liability - as occurred with the ban of Brocock air cartridge guns)

- Does it mean that literally only RFDs will be able to sell deacts, or does it mean that all sales have to be conducted via an RFD?

Both of the recommendations are of course incentives to create a black market - a factor conspicuous by its absence from both this report and the 2009 consultation document on deacts.

Hopefully TonyE is right - there are just too many (300K?) about to make major changes worthwhile. It wouldn't be so much shutting the stable door after the horse had bolted, as shutting it 20 years after the horse had emigrated to Australia.

Mark

 

[Gunner's Brat]

A complete and waste of time by government to passify the 'do-gooders' that do more harm than their share to damage the heritage of this country! Why can't our MPs stop trying to save money and finance properly the anti-criminal/terrorist activity of our police etc rather than finding fault all the time! Also government pay little heed to comments made by the public to their officialconsultation documents!

 

[smle2009]

hi TonyE .i was on about the bans they keep bringing out in general . .from the pistol ban and the semiauto and mag size thats not stopped criminals doing what they do .i went in woolworths a couple of years back and you had to be 18 to buy a orange and green stripy toy pistol that made electronic gun sounds .the laws gone mad and demonised firearms to the point they edit them out of tv programs cartoons music videos and movies .the law also included all airsoft be made of either clear plastic or bright colours unless youre with a sociaty for scermish or airsoft for reinactment.whats stopping a criminal buying a can of black spraypaint .its just plain stupidity of the goverment.regards Darrol:tinysmile_classes_t

Or a can of bright orange spray paint and do a nice paint job on the real thing!:tinysmile_fatgrin_t