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The Swimmer Weapons System 3801 pt 1

weberoed

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The Swimmer Weapons System 3801
The 308 devices part one

During the Vietnam war, the Special Operations community needed advanced demolition and sabotage type devices. The only available ones on hand were those left over from WWII and Korea like the CIA Anti-disturbance device which operated on battery decay for time and relays with leaf springs for anti disturbance.

The Naval Ordnance Laboratory at China Lake NOS was tasked to upgrade the specops requirements. They came up with what (and still is) called the Swimmer Weapons System 3801. Within the 3801 equipment was what was called the 308 Special Devices. The 308 were either firing devices that used a resistor capacitor circuit for arming and firing. There were 7 basic 308 devices, the 308-9 Claymore, -11 Army canteen, -12 army flashlight, -14 instamatic camera, -17 AK47 and M16 magazines, -21 gas tank cap and the first basic device the 308-6. With the exception of the -6 all of the others were designed to be built into an item to hide their purpose.

There employment was simple, special operation forces Army Special Forces, Navy SEALs or the MAVCSOG teams, would seek into an enemy area and leave one or these devices behind. Other methods would be to leave one of them say the canteen or magazine along a trail. When the enemy found them and either opened or tried to use them, the device would function an electric blasting cap and pre packed C-4 within the device would detonate.

This article will discuss the first 308 device, the 308-6 which was anti disturbance and had the ability to have an external firing device attached to it (a clock timer, pressure switch etc). These are electronic ant disturbance mechanisms used to initiate boobytraps either on the surface or underwater (to a depth of 70’).

The devices are painted olive drab, and are identified by an adhesive-affixed identification plate indicating the unit model number, serial number, and date of manufacture. This plate is removed before use. It was 3 x 1.5 x 1.25” in size and weighed 5.5 ounces.

The case is plastic, and the cap terminals are brass. The on-off switch, wires, and connector plug are covered with rubber. The components of the device are encapsulated in plastic, and are accessible only by destruction of the device.

The 308-6 was a resistor capacitor arming and firing system. When the switch was turned on the capacitor would start to be charged from a 30v NEDA # 222 battery. The device could fire up to 4 blasting caps. The number of caps also controlled the arming time; 1 cap 1minute and 4 caps 3.5 minutes.

When the device was disturbed, or heavy vibration was detected near by the device would fire, via a small trembler switch that allowed the capacitors to discharge to the blasting caps. In addition the 308-6 may also be fired through the functioning of a normally open pressure switch, connected to the connector plug. Several different pressure switches are available for use with this device, such as a clock work timer or a pressure switch.

There were actually two variations of the 308-6, the -6 and the -6A. The 308-6A device is identical to the 308-6 except that it does not have the connector plug, and was used for anti disturbance only.

All setups using the 308-6 had to be completed prior to arming.

There were 125 308-6 devices made during the Vietnam War. Documents report that 54 of them were used in actual deployment. In 1981 25 of the remaining stock were destroyed. At least 15 can be accounted for at various training activities.

While researching this device this author found one source of its use by Co D 1[SUP]st[/SUP] SF. In 1969 during Operation Sonjia, the 308-6A was used with time pencils of various time delays. The boobytraps were set in known NVA/VC Area the time pencils would detonate at various times through a 3 to 7 day time frame keeping the enemy off guard. And if they enemy found the boobytraps the 308-6A would be functioned killing them.
 

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Several years ago I saw someone was selling one of these on Ebay. I had no idea what it was and didn't think anything about it. Now I know ... too bad.

Joe
 
Weberoed, thanks for your very informative presentation. I evidently have a third model of the device. One of my devices is different than the ones you show. The label says Model 308-6 with a B scribed into the metal plate. On the plate it says"Battery inside-refrigerate for storage Do/Not Freeze. It is dated as manufactured in 1968. There is no screw-in cap to provide access to a battery chamber.

It has a slightly different connector and the toggle switch is in a different location. I will post photos later tonight.

By-the-way, my 308-6B is serial numbered 222.

John
 
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Pretty good, I don't have the doc in hand but there were some other types talked about. 1969 was near the end of manufacturing them The number I quoted was the number given to me during the demill. But if you have a serial number 222 I wonder. As for the battery, the 308-6 were the only 308 devices where you could change the battery, all the other devices had the batteries internal. I went back and looked at my pics and a old user manual for the 308-6, I don't see any warning in it about do not freeze. So I am wondering if they kept making them and thism one was made to be usable in a cold climate like maybe Germany inthe winter!!! I really do not know right now.
 
HAZORD - just got an email from an old friend inthe SEAL community. Turns out he was at China Lake when these were being made. In the late 70s, I was teaching part of these to SEAL Tm 2 and a coupleof the UDT units of 2nd Specail Warfe AGroup. As Toms stroy goes, the 308-6 was made in the hundreds (not what the docs I have say), but his descripton of where they were sent (other palces then VN) kind of matches up with some other information I collected (but have no hard docuements on). He went on to say that the B Model never was meant for VN. I have checked the nfo I have on the 308-6 and all I can find is the 3808-6 and 6A. So looks like you have a pretty rare item. Also i had a friend chek, there is no mention of the B model in the 60 EODP on Special devcies.
 
Mike,

PM your email address to me and I will send some Hi-res photos to you. The 99KB file size limit on this site drives me nuts.

And I will post some photos here. Haven't had a chance to break out the macro lens.
 
Hazord, how about using Photobucket? I think we are all very curious to see more of these gizmos.
 
I'll try, photo editing has never been my strong suit

got a couple more photos, but waiting for an other member to send me some more info so I can compare that to my docs, want it all to be right. I just got a couple new docs in and found a couple errors - one on my 3801-1 napalm post (minor but none the less I want to be fully correct), also was doing some searching threw a government web site and the Texas U Vietnam history site (not an easy site to navigate) and have found some really good info about SF, SEAL (all in the SOG program) actual use of these devices. Sometimes just a sentence but enough to provide actual documentation


FYI gotta excuse my typing, been having a little troble with the back and it has affected my fingers for some reason - I don't always feel hitting the key and think I did.

HAZORD you should have something in your email by now.
 
So, here are the photos of the 308-6B I mentioned, shown with 2 of the older models that have no nameplates. The B model has a different connector, wires come out differently, switch in different area, and internal battery.
 

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