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Request for permission to use images

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Eugenio

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I'm workingh in a kind of world atlas of hand grenades, and this web has some very good - and some uniques - pics. I ask to all the members the permission to use the posted photographs in the book.

In any case there will be a reference to the original web as image source.

For those without answer in three months I consider they give me autorization.
 
Eugenio said:
I'm workingh in a kind of world atlas of hand grenades, and this web has some very good - and some uniques - pics. I ask to all the members the permission to use the posted photographs in the book.

In any case there will be a reference to the original web as image source.

For those without answer in three months I consider they give me autorization.
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Hello Eugenio,

Maybe it's more complicated. I can't remember wich photos I uploaded on Bocn and there are not necessarily mine but come from other sources.

Also former members are no longer there now.

If you want to use pictures for a book I think you have to ask for each one to avoid copyright issues.

That's my opinion.
 
Yep I know, but I change the images in the files as I find better ones. It's a living process involving - at this moment - about 3400 grenades, too much to ask for each one.

This is the only useful solution I find.
 
Back in 2014 I took some photos of an event where there were no press photographers around. I sent the photos to the BBC with permission for them to be used by them but not used elsewhere.

Six British newspapers downloaded the photos from the BBC website without either my permission or even asking the BBC if they could use them. I was rather angry but after contacting all the relevant newspapers I got an apology from each one and a very nice payment for the use of the photos.

So you do have to tread carefully, using other people's photos without their permission. It could be expensive.
 
And it's getting even more complicated: If you have a permission from someone and this someone took the picture in a museum without permission then in my country you can get problems even then. Pictures found in the Internet are from many different countries with many different rules. In my opinion it's almost impossible to use these pictures in a safe manner.

A book with 3400 fotos? In paper? Even as a digital catalog 3400 pictures will be hard to handle :)
 
Eugenio said:
I'm workingh in a kind of world atlas of hand grenades, and this web has some very good - and some uniques - pics. I ask to all the members the permission to use the posted photographs in the book.

In any case there will be a reference to the original web as image source.

For those without answer in three months I consider they give me autorization.
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Your three month no-answer authorization means nothing in the United States.

In the United States, the photographer automatically owns the copyright to a photograph the moment it's taken. This ownership grants exclusive rights to reproduce, display, distribute, and create derivative works of the image. Copyright protection lasts for the life of the photographer plus 70 years. Registration with the U.S. Copyright Office is not required for copyright to exist and a copyright notice is not required for copyright protection. Copyright infringement occurs when someone copies, uses, or distributes a copyrighted photograph without the permission of the copyright holder. This can include using the photo on a website, in a magazine, on social media, or in any other format without a license.
 
Alpini said:
And it's getting even more complicated: If you have a permission from someone and this someone took the picture in a museum without permission then in my country you can get problems even then. Pictures found in the Internet are from many different countries with many different rules. In my opinion it's almost impossible to use these pictures in a safe manner.
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Each country has his own laws for copyright, but - as far as I know - in this case I will be under the spanish or US law (I have all my books with lulu.com, in North Caroline). I need to see the american copyrighgt but, normaly if I use a pic with permission of the one that has put it in a web I don't have any responsability about a possible original owner.
 
inertordnance said:
Your three month no-answer authorization means nothing in the United States.

In the United States, the photographer automatically owns the copyright to a photograph the moment it's taken. This ownership grants exclusive rights to reproduce, display, distribute, and create derivative works of the image. Copyright protection lasts for the life of the photographer plus 70 years. Registration with the U.S. Copyright Office is not required for copyright to exist and a copyright notice is not required for copyright protection. Copyright infringement occurs when someone copies, uses, or distributes a copyrighted photograph without the permission of the copyright holder. This can include using the photo on a website, in a magazine, on social media, or in any other format without a license.
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Thanks. Definively I need to obtain an accord with each source.
 
In Spain we have a legal figure called administrative silence (silencio administrativo) according to which, and depending on the subject, If you ask for something to the public administration without answer in the right time, you can assume an affirmative (or negative) one.

I don't know if this figure is useful also when you ask to anyone other than the public administration, but normaly if you made the request in a right way to achieve the adresee, it's OK.

I think this will be more or less equal in every country; nevertheless I will try to contact with everyone whose pictures I like to use.
 
I think this is unwise as should there also be a legal challenge with photos taken from any website, the website itself could be liable as it 'allowed' the photos to be downloaded.

Some websites have software that blocks downloading. Many other don't.

It would also be unwise to take Spanish law as a guide to other jurisdictions , especially the USA, and UK who are leaders in copyright law.
 
Alpini said:
A book with 3400 fotos? In paper? Even as a digital catalog 3400 pictures will be hard to handle :)
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My idea is not to put all in a single book, but joint the countries follong a geographic criteria so that each one covers 400-500 grenades.

At this moment, the structure of the work is:

N - 1 - Africa, Oceania, unknown, international
N - 2 - America
N - 3 - Asia
N - 4 - Europe 1 (Western, other countries)
N - 5 - Europe 2 (Eastern)
N - 6 - Europe 3 (United Kingdom)
N - 7 - Europe 4 (Spain)
N - 8 - Europe 5 (Italy)
N - 9 - Europe 6 (Germany-Austria-Hungary)

Perhaps a N-0 with the text for those unfamiliar with this field, but everything can change. There's even the option of not publishing anything at all, but I think the work will be a valuable addition to any student library.
 
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