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new items maker mark IDs please?

westyork123

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Evening guys,

Bought a few new items today!!

Large Cart case: 25 pounder II, lot 861, 1942, Cordite Filled, maker mark is MG not sure who that is, any ideas?
The primer is dated Jan 1942, No.II, and the numbers.. 1350 ME8/ 420 any further info on the primer is appreciated.

The shorter case is a 4.5IN Howitzer II, lot 48, 1916, Cordite Filled, maker mark WPS any suggestions?? The primer has the marks No.1 F.3. any clues? Nice piece of trench art

The very small cart case is the Aden Low Velocity case.

The other large plaque is of a Chieftain Tank Mk 2/Y, type E. Nice item, very interesting! Measures around 30cm long by 15cm wide and .5cm thick.

Cheers for looking, any extra info is always welcome!

Regards, Matt
 

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Your 25 Pdr. made by MG is an Australian case made at SAAF No.2, Footscray.

BTW, "CF" is "Cordite, Full charge", not "Cordite Filled".

Regards
TonyE
 
MG

It all goes back to the start of small arms ammunition production in Australia. A plant was set up at Footscray near Melbourne by the Colonial Ammunition Company to make ammo for the colonial governments.

In 1922 it was bought from CAC by the government and set up as Small Arms Ammunition Factory (SAAF) Footscray, and used a series of headstamps starting with "SAAF", through "^F", and by WW2 was using "MF". Whether this stood for "Manufactury Footscray" or not I do not know. With the expansion of production in WW2 this became SAAF. No.1, the new factories became SAAF No.2 (MG), SAAF No.3 (MH) etc. There were also MQ, MS and MW. There may have been others engaged in non-small arms ammunition production but that is outside of my area of knowledge.

...all the various headstamps explained in my .303 identification book!

Regards
TonyE
 
can you tell me what the vehicle number is on the chieftain part please
 
00EB86 chieftain MBT Mk2 was disposed of in feb 1998 and ended up on warminster ranges..info from "chieftain" by Rob Griffin
 
spotter thats great! that explains why its in Devizes..... any idea if these are very sought after? i think its great!
 
spotter thats great! that explains why its in Devizes..... any idea if these are very sought after? i think its great!

no not worth a thing nobody likes them,send it to me and ill get rid of it for you :xd:
seriously i would think they are collectable and nice been stamped for an individual tank instead of blank,you actually know its been fitted instead of sat in a store room,maybe with some time you could find out more of the tanks service history
 
good good, i really like it! ill just ask at work, i work on the plain and have lots of royal tank regiment contacts..... going to try and go get a pic of the hulk i think that would be quite kool......
 
go and see the RLO if its anything like OTA he should be able to tell you if its still there and give you grid references of the target
 
I suspect 'WSP' to be Worcester Pressed Steel Company, Worcester, Mass. USA.

Regards

TimG
 
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Ceers to all for your help, hopefully getting a photograph of the Chieftain hulk this week . If it hasnt been dragged already!
Regards,

Matt
 
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