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Need help with early 1900's ordnance, fuzes, canister shot, etc.

Dr_Rambow

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I picked up a wonderful ordnance grouping at auction, which was exciting enough, but there were a few surprises when the box finally arrived. I could identify the large projectiles without much trouble, but there are some smaller items that have me stumped completely. There are two possibly canister projectiles/ cases and some possible fuze parts, but I really don't know.

What puzzles me are all the small items. I really have no idea about any of them.

The mouth of the smallest cartridge is about 0.4225" and stands 2.4" tall. It has a odd lip around the primer. One of my colleges suggested that it might be a primer for a large caliber gun.

The brass case on the right (2nd image) is about 1.02" at the top, with the mouth at around 0.93". and 4.125" tall. The lead shot is 0.4". It looks like it has a firing pin strike, but I can't make out any fuze/primer on the inside of the shell.

There is a soldered tinplate canister (which looks like a smaller version of this 3" Hochkiss canister) is 2.75" tall and about 1.18" in diameter (1.25" at the rim). The lid does not appear to have been soldered on at any point. This might just be a match tin, but it came with the rest, so I figure it's worth a shot.
 

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The "fuzes" lack any markings and may simply be some unknown hardware. The larger sleeve has a peculiar cloth membrane at the bottom/center. Combined with the thin tabbed piece, this appears to be an impact fuze of some kine. The other 3 threaded pieces fit nicely into each other, but lack any apparent mechanical function other than perhaps a cap/cover for a fuze or charge.

The widest point on the non threaded fuze is 0.81". the whole piece is 1.61" tall. The section that holds the "firing pin" is 0.38 wide at the narrow portion.

The threaded "fuze" is 0.98" wide. The largest, outer section is 0.43" tall. The central portion with the "knob" is 0.93" long.

Not sure if the two go together, but the patina on all parts are approximately the same.
 

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Since you mentioned that you received these items with an amount of other items, what were the items you received? With the exception of the 6 Pounder round, all of the other items would appear to be Pre WWI. The 1 inch diameter case appears to be a 1 inch Gatling Gun case.

What is the headstamp on the .42 inch diameter case? It does look like an artillery primer, but better photos and headstamp info is needed.
 
The fist image in the first post shows just about everything. I found one of the fuze pieces after I had taken the pictures. The 6 pounder is a 1894/95 dated round (different parts have different dates) and the one pounder is from 1916.

The artillery primer has T, S, and N evenly spaced around the primer.
 

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The 'artillery primer' pictured above looks to me like an 11mm Mauser cartridge case or something similar.

Brian
 
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