Mine Legre Mle1935/1936 French anti tank mine

[BMG50]

Anyone have one of these with a safety bar as i would like to know the length of the bar, as mine (no pun intended) is missing as i would like to make a new one or has anyone have a spare for sale. I am also after the two fuzes as well.

 

[Yodamaster]

Hi BMG50,

we have one in our museum. Monday I shall try to take pictures and dimensions of the bar. (If I don't forget it !)


Yoda

 

[BMG50]

Its funny how you notice variations on things you recently add to your collection. With this mine i have noticed quite a few diferences. First there is a aluminum lid that was made under German occupation as oposed to the steel version. The safety bar was also made in aluminum as well as steel with two different shape types of pull loop on the end. The picture posted has four holes at the base of the mine in each corner, where i have only two, which i have seen on other mines. The fuze wells on my mine has differences between each other in that the threads are deeper in the pocket on one pocket.
I wonder if there were two factories that made these or there was an early or late pattern, with the late mine made under ocupation with the slight mods added. As with my mine i have seen these painted in a green with splodges of sand colour added, not sure if this was painted by the French or by the Germans.

 

[sudelmuk]

Seemingly another mine with poor references and few secured knowledge.

Recently I came across these pictures:






Lid and safety bar are made of sheet metal, the igniter-dummies solid brass from the lathe.

Any ideas about this strange device, gentlemen?

 

[EOD]

This one looks like a complete reproduction since the original looked more "factory".

 

[BMG50]

Or it could be a copy for training perposes.

 

[Panzerknacker]

Yes its a bad copy, but the markings on the base stand for a EOD training mine, each code stands for a different type of mine, i would have thought so you could reference it back to a page for disarming ! I have a tellermine 43 with this type of markings and have seen a tellermine 42 also with this type of marking, my 43 came from a EOD training site, the good part about this mine you get the idea of how to disarm a original !

 

[Panzerknacker]

I work the bar out to be 310mm long 20mm width 15mm deep ! can anyone else confirm this ?

 

[BMG50]

Seen in the picture posted is the pull loop on the end of the safety bar, what i want to know is what is at the other end, its either a small catch or a safety pin that stops the bar being pulled out.

 

[BMG50]

I also worked out that the bar should be 270mm long which allows about 10mm either side, 310mm is way to long, unless your mine is longer.

 

[Yodamaster]

Hi BMG50,

here comes the pictures and the dimensions :

Length : 273 mm
Width : 20 mm
Height : 15 mm

the bar is U shaped and made in steel

4 holes (two on each end) with a diameter of 5 mm

The ring have a total length of 30 mm, a width of 27 mm and the wire have a diameter of 3 mm

That's all I can say. Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures.


Yoda

 

[BMG50]

Thanks for the pictures and the dimensions, much appreciated.

 

[BMG50]

Anyone have know what is at the other end of the safety bar that retains it in place, stops it falling out, may be a pin, like a cotter pin or something. Anyone have a picture or illustration in a Frence manual or even a German manual, as the Germans used them as well as part of their captured stock.

 

[BMG50]

Found out the other end has a brass wire type cotter pin.

 

[kz11gr]

Hi
Many pictures here

http://www.wk2ammo.com/showthread.php?463-le-Pz-Abw-Mi-407-(f)

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