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hicky1300

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Hi Gents
One of the French guys working with me lives in Normandy in a very old house. Anyway when he moved in about 10 years ago he found some boxes & clips of ammunition amongst other items in the loft & cellar.

He brought in several WWII items which I have ID`d for hime (as well as letting him know they are live!!) but this one has me stumped!

It looks straight away like a NATO 7.62 x 51 but dims are: 7.77 x 54mm?
Headstamp is MR 30 DO 4

Projectile appears to be cupro nickel jacket but a magnet goes to it like the proverbial to a blanket! Could it be steel (AP) cored?

Also were WWII US made .45 auto bullets ever steel cored? - reason is he has a very nice .45 round in steel case HS is E (@ 900) C (@ 1200) S (@ 300) 43 (@ 600) & again magnet loves this projectile (copper jacket) but not as much the case?!!

Ideas?
Thanks as ever
 

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My guess is 7.5 x 54mm French MAS. MR = Manufacture de Machines du Haut-Rhin, (Manurhin), Mulhouse-Bourtzwiller, France

45ACP is most likely steel jacket, copper clad or plated. ECS = Evansville Ordnance Plant Sunbeam who made the case. It was loaded at Evansville Ordnance Plant Chrysler in 1943.

Ray
 
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