Hi,
I have come across two obviously very old projectiles that are located in Japan. Requesting information about them will be very difficult, but some measurements are known.
The first one looks very old, with the odd design using three thin driving bands; I would guess it was manufactured somewhere in the late 1800s. I have no other clues about it, other than what can be seen in the images and the gives measurements. No mention is made of markings on it. The measurements that are given are:
-Approximate calibre: 65mm
-Length: 150mm
-Weight: 2225 grams
The second one looks like it might be a bit less old. My guess would be early 1900s, WW1 latest, but then, I'm not an expert. Interestingly enough the forward end of this one has white paint, and old Japanese Naval (AP)HE projectiles used to be painted white, with a green nose tip. No mention is made of markings on it. The measurements that are given are:
-Approximate calibre: 75mm
-Length: 185mm
-Weight: 3955 grams
Chances are very good that they are of foreign manufacture (British, German, French, ...) for Japan, or that they are of Russian or Chinese manufacture, possibly they were used in the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-1905. I find that many of the old items that are encountered in Japan fit that profile, and often they are commemoratively marked "trophy items", as used by their enemies.
The questions:
1-Can anyone ID these projectiles for me, or does anyone have some general information about the era or likely countries they could have been manufactured in?
2-Does anyone have any idea what the value of this might be, regardless of nation? If I buy it, it will come with a pretty hefty price tag (item + shipping costs from Japan are expensive).
3-Is anyone particularly interested in one or both of them?
Thanks in advance and cheers,
Olafo
I have come across two obviously very old projectiles that are located in Japan. Requesting information about them will be very difficult, but some measurements are known.
The first one looks very old, with the odd design using three thin driving bands; I would guess it was manufactured somewhere in the late 1800s. I have no other clues about it, other than what can be seen in the images and the gives measurements. No mention is made of markings on it. The measurements that are given are:
-Approximate calibre: 65mm
-Length: 150mm
-Weight: 2225 grams
The second one looks like it might be a bit less old. My guess would be early 1900s, WW1 latest, but then, I'm not an expert. Interestingly enough the forward end of this one has white paint, and old Japanese Naval (AP)HE projectiles used to be painted white, with a green nose tip. No mention is made of markings on it. The measurements that are given are:
-Approximate calibre: 75mm
-Length: 185mm
-Weight: 3955 grams
Chances are very good that they are of foreign manufacture (British, German, French, ...) for Japan, or that they are of Russian or Chinese manufacture, possibly they were used in the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-1905. I find that many of the old items that are encountered in Japan fit that profile, and often they are commemoratively marked "trophy items", as used by their enemies.
The questions:
1-Can anyone ID these projectiles for me, or does anyone have some general information about the era or likely countries they could have been manufactured in?
2-Does anyone have any idea what the value of this might be, regardless of nation? If I buy it, it will come with a pretty hefty price tag (item + shipping costs from Japan are expensive).
3-Is anyone particularly interested in one or both of them?
Thanks in advance and cheers,
Olafo
