hicky1300
Well-Known Member
Hi All
I hope no-one will think I am taking the proverbial with the size of this thread but I thought better to do all in one?
My trawling around Belgium has turned upp some interesting items and a few have me stumped!
Pic 1 & 2 is a brass case 47 x 311. V good unfired cond & I do not think a projectile has been loaded? HS is: 48 @ 9.30 with 41r below. 34 in a square @ 12 with 37 in a bowl shape? below. 184 in a rectangle @ 3.00 with G below.
ID please?
Pic 3 are a pair of fuze parts for a Mle 89 30/55 for a French 75mm shell. Marked Mle89 on the side & 30-55. E.C (or G?).P 2 99 & 2 05 each on the top face.
I 2 05 & 2 99 respectively months & year of manufacture? Also EC/GP maker?
Pic 4 & 5 is what I think is a 20mm hispano projectile HE?. It was fitted to a WWII dated Russian 20 x 99R case! Length overall is 82mm to drive band from base 9mm. Drive band is 5 wide. Fuze? is 20mm.
The fuze has me intriuged as it has this rebate machined in it. It looks too well made to be a home made job & there is what appears to be a percussion cap on the top. Inside there is no flash hole though? (unfinished. Projectile is hollow - hence my thinking HE but no tracer base this is solid. No markingds on proj body/base or fuze.
Pics 5, 6 & 7. 20mm Vulcan projectile with a difference (to me!). The alluminium nose section unscrews & inside it is a steel (not Tungsten) core, this is a lot longer than the other vulca tips/noses at 48mm. The base of the projectile is hollow - tracer? & the insides are mahined out to only allow the thread & steel part of the nose to fit. Thoughts? I thought experimental but do not really understand the steel insert. I have not tried to remove this except by hand no signs of whether it is screwed in or pressed & I do not want to damage it.
Pic 8. Oerlikon KBB? 25 x 174 Drill round. No headstamp & the projectile is steel with Alu nose/dummyfuze & all appears to be held together by Allen bolt at the head. I cannot find any info on this - can anyone enlighten me?!
Also can anyone confim headstamp from a nice 30 x 97 DEFA Drill/training round I got. Projectile is stamped AIY-35-53. 35th week of 1953?
HS is: 30/3-C.G.F-A-52 & MR-1353-s again 13th week 1953?
As ever thanks
I hope no-one will think I am taking the proverbial with the size of this thread but I thought better to do all in one?
My trawling around Belgium has turned upp some interesting items and a few have me stumped!
Pic 1 & 2 is a brass case 47 x 311. V good unfired cond & I do not think a projectile has been loaded? HS is: 48 @ 9.30 with 41r below. 34 in a square @ 12 with 37 in a bowl shape? below. 184 in a rectangle @ 3.00 with G below.
ID please?
Pic 3 are a pair of fuze parts for a Mle 89 30/55 for a French 75mm shell. Marked Mle89 on the side & 30-55. E.C (or G?).P 2 99 & 2 05 each on the top face.
I 2 05 & 2 99 respectively months & year of manufacture? Also EC/GP maker?
Pic 4 & 5 is what I think is a 20mm hispano projectile HE?. It was fitted to a WWII dated Russian 20 x 99R case! Length overall is 82mm to drive band from base 9mm. Drive band is 5 wide. Fuze? is 20mm.
The fuze has me intriuged as it has this rebate machined in it. It looks too well made to be a home made job & there is what appears to be a percussion cap on the top. Inside there is no flash hole though? (unfinished. Projectile is hollow - hence my thinking HE but no tracer base this is solid. No markingds on proj body/base or fuze.
Pics 5, 6 & 7. 20mm Vulcan projectile with a difference (to me!). The alluminium nose section unscrews & inside it is a steel (not Tungsten) core, this is a lot longer than the other vulca tips/noses at 48mm. The base of the projectile is hollow - tracer? & the insides are mahined out to only allow the thread & steel part of the nose to fit. Thoughts? I thought experimental but do not really understand the steel insert. I have not tried to remove this except by hand no signs of whether it is screwed in or pressed & I do not want to damage it.
Pic 8. Oerlikon KBB? 25 x 174 Drill round. No headstamp & the projectile is steel with Alu nose/dummyfuze & all appears to be held together by Allen bolt at the head. I cannot find any info on this - can anyone enlighten me?!
Also can anyone confim headstamp from a nice 30 x 97 DEFA Drill/training round I got. Projectile is stamped AIY-35-53. 35th week of 1953?
HS is: 30/3-C.G.F-A-52 & MR-1353-s again 13th week 1953?
As ever thanks