I.D: Rimfire & Metal detecting finds

[ben2000]

Hello All,

I have two sets of items i was hoping someone could enlighten me on. Firstly i recently purchased the 3 large rimfire rounds, all identical, no markings and over half an inch in diameter (unfortunately i dont own a vernier). The elderly gent i purchased them from said they were US Civil war era? The book i have (Notes on ammunition of the American civil war by Col Berkeley R. Lewis) doesn't show anything like these so guess they are probably more recent?

Secondly one of my collegues (sp) at work belongs to a metal detecting club and goes off most weekends on hunts locally. I purchased his tin of military bits and bobs which included among all the musket/pistol balls all these conical lead shot. Some have a stamp into the base (the one shown looks like a backwards 'R'. What rifle were they fired from? (They have rifling marks on them), again they are over half inch in calibre.

Thank-you all in advance,

Ben.

 

[raymeketa]

The three rim-fire cartridges appear to be 56-56 Spencer. They are from the American Civil War era. I can't say what the hollow base bullets might be. Muzzle loading minie ball type, but I can't ID them beyond that. They could have been fired in one of a large number of muskets of that period.

Ray

 

[millsbomber]

The bullets look like .455 pistol WW1 or 2

 

[TonyE]

Agree the rimfires look like .56=56 Spencers, but the other ones are not .455 Webley Mark IIs. I think they might be .450 Adams, possibly the muzzle loading version, but I will check.

Regards
tonyE

 

[ben2000]

Thank-you for your replies, very much appreciated,

Ben.