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Help with WW II Japanese Shell

pelham47

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I once asked about one of above and had many helpful answers. I was hoping for your wisdom again please. The only thing I know is its a Nagoya arsenal.

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The shell measures..

7-1/4 in/18.415cm height
3.5 in/8.89cm across base
10.5 in/ 26.67cm around.

Anyone with caliber, gun used, etc would be great. Anyone with a projectle even better.

Thanks again in advance.
 

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Hi,

From the height measurement alone it matches the case for the 75mm Type 41 Regimental Mountain Gun (7 1/4").

What's the diameter of the case opening?

Any closeups of the base stampings??

Thanks
Cheers
Drew
 
Hi,

I have attached a diagram of the 75mm case in question. It is one of 4 different 75mm cases used by the Japanese Army. The 75mm projectiles were all very much interchangable between different shell cases and at my last count I have a total of 24 diagrams of different 75 mm projectiles.

As Dronic69 pointed out this paticular case size was used in the 75mm Type 41 Mountain Gun. It was also used in the 75mm Type 94 Mountain Gun which was designed as a replacement for the Type 41.

The Type 41 was used as an infantry support weapon but as it was originaly designed as a pack artillery piece it was also found in pack or mountain artillery units.

The Type 94 was standard in most mountain and pack artillery units.

Let us know if you want more info. If so I will consider creating a PDF file for you on the 75mm rounds.

Cheers,
BOUGAINVILLE
 

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Hello,
The opening across the shell is right under 3 inches. It is a little mis-shapen. I have included a close up of bottom of shell as asked.

One question for both of you seeing you are senior and premium members is there a WW II shell book available anywhere? There are many books in the US of American Civil War artillery (which I collect also), but there is not a lot of reference on WW II.

I very much appreciate your knowledge on the subject, but would love to be able to find more on my own.

Regards,
Tom
 

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Hi,
This case was manufactured in January 1940 (Showa 15).

Someone has removed the primer and soldered the primer hole maybe to make it water tight for a vase.

A good publication for you as a reference point on Japanese Ammunition is TM 9-1985-5 "Japanese Explosive Ordnance" which is available from;

http://www.idsabooks.com/cgi-bin/idb455/4933.html

It looks as if all they have left are used copies at USD$125 each. I got my reprint some years ago from the same company for USD$25.

The publisher for the reprint is Julin Books, 5282 Ridan Way, Palm Beach Gardens, FL 33418-6029, United States. Ph. (561)622-3864. Give them a try to see if any of the reprints are left.

Also go to this link and you will find some High Quality Japanese Ordnance related PDF files that I have uploaded. You will also be able with wee bit of searching find material uploaded by other people. One good one that comes to mind is the "Catalog-of-Enemy-Ordnance-Materiel-1945" in 3 parts.

[ame="http://www.scribd.com/doc/35740591/OP-1667-VOL-1"]OP 1667 VOL. 1[/ame]

Hope this is of help.

Cheers,
BOUGAINVILLE
 
Thank you very much Bougainville for all the insight. Thanks for the link in the pdf file. I am very much new about moving around in these forums.

I will keep my eye out for the book on hopefully a cheaper price someday.

Any books like that in British, US, etc countries for WW II artillery?

Regards,
Tom
 
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