Help with ID on a German WW1 Shell

[merlin_industries]

Having difficulty getting a definitive ID on this German WW1 Shell. Any help from members would be much appreciated.

The base of the item has the following marks DEZ and 1917. Also Sp255 , 21 and the name Patronenfabrik Karlsruhe . There is also a sybol like a flower with petals on 3 sides and what looks like a C in the middle. On the Primer section something like Kn 6 18

Height is 580mm , Dia Base 100mm , Dia Top 80mm


I know the SP means high strength and the date and manufacturer. Not sure about the DEZ the 21 sybol and the exact size and type.

Cheers
Mitch

 

[Alpini]

it's a 80 x 585R for the Krupp 8 cm anti aircraft guns.

"Sp" means "Spandau" (in this case the place of the inspection/acceptance) All "Sp" + number stamps are acceptance stamps.
DEZ means "Dezember"
The small symbol is a exploding bomb which was always used by the Patronenfabrik Karlsruhe.

The stamp on the Primer is not Kn, it is Kp which is the Friedrich Krupp AG

 

[merlin_industries]

Alpini
Many thanks for the help with ID. Did they really use anti-aircraft guns in WW1 ?
Cheers
Mitch

 

[Alpini]

oh, of course all nations used aa-guns in WW1. Germany used many different guns from 2 cm - 15 cm as anti aircraft guns.

have a look at the following nice website (with only some minor mistakes):

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/cc19.htm

 

[merlin_industries]

Many thanks , that is interesting information.

 

[Burney Davis]

oh, of course all nations used aa-guns in WW1. Germany used many different guns from 2 cm - 15 cm as anti aircraft guns.

have a look at the following nice website (with only some minor mistakes):

http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/cc19.htm

Alpini,

Do you have a picture of the actual projectile that goes in this case - was there more than one model?

Thanks in anticipation.

D

 

[Alpini]

Hello Burney,

there was just one model of a HE shell for the 8 cm Flak as seen on the kaiserbunker website. But the color of all flak shells was yellow, not field grey as pictured there.

I have one such shell in bad condition, but not yet restored - so no photo at the moment - sorry. These 8 cm shells are some of the rarest german WW1 shells out there. The 8 cm Flak was soon replaced by the more powerful 8,8 cm Flak (which had several different projectiles)

 

[merlin_industries]

If anyone is interested I am looking to sell this 8cm WW1 German Shell. Anyone interested just contact me via BOCN.