Experts for Lee-Metford/Enfield I need help !

[DreamPhoto]

Does any have idea what this thing is ? Have standard joint unit for bayonet socket of Lee-Metford or long Lee-Enfield ! Front piece is rotating for 90 degree.No any markings, maybe is Dutch ?:cry:

 

[staples57]

Just a thought...

Could it be a training aid?
... a target is fitted on the end of the "rod-thing" and then the "rod-thing" gets attached to the rifle?

or

Could it be a device to steady the rifle for a long range sniper shot?
...attach the "rod-thing" to a fixed object and then the "rod-thing" gets attached to the rifle?

 

[DreamPhoto]

Thank you Staples57,
I have similar thought, but I hope that "rod-thing" is more usual part of equipment. I hope that we find some answers for that.
Thanks any way !

 

[racefiets]

Looks Dutch to me. I will have to check but it is used to make a monopod for a MG with a rifle. It was used for the Dutch Lewis gun.

 

[super7]

I can not see any markings on any of the pictures which might suggest it is
not some kind of production gadget. Not a clue what it could be or its origin.
The handle looks more Ross than M95 but in both cases I would expect
to see some remaining markings. Why do you think it might be Dutch?

Cheers, Jan

 

[TonyE]

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What an interesting item! I agree that it certainly looks like the bayonet fitting for an MLM or an MLE. Have you checked the diameter of the muzzle ring?

I thought at first that it might have been some kind of training bayonet, but the business end is obviously wrong. As for the monopod for a Lewis, i would have thought an MLE with that on the end would have been far too tall, and when did the Dutch have MLE rifles in service with Lewis guns?

I await any further revelations with interest.

Regards
TonyE

 

[super7]

The Dutch had the SMLE and (modified) Lewis gun in service alright. I do not
think the Lee Metford came in to the picture though.

Cheers, Jan

 

[smle2009]

The Dutch 1895 bayonet used on the 6.5mm Mannlicher rifle and carbine used the same pommel as the British P1888(Metford/'long lee') bayonet.
Not any help for id,but as the Nederland connection has already been suggested,but my be another area to search for a id?
Cheers
Tony

PS it would not fit on a SMLE.

 

[smle2009]

Here are photos of the 1895,Ross and the 1888 bayonet pommels,I think we can discount the Ross bayonet.
1895 is the first photo,1888 last
Cheers
Tony

 

[racefiets]

It is a Dutch "luchtdoelsteun No.1" for infantry use with the M95 rifle. There is also a longer version (luchtdoelsteun No3) for use with the karabijn No4. Tomorrow I will make a scan of the book "Nederlandse vuurwapens Landmacht en Luchtvaartafdeling" by G. de Vries and B.J Martens.(for those who have the book, page 191, 192 and 193)

 

[super7]

Looks like I need to add another edition concerning the Army and Airforce
of this serie by G. de Vries and B.J Martens to the booklist.
Thanks 'racefiets' for clearifying the mystery object.

Did a quick search and came up with the following link with illustrations of
the device.

http://www.collectie.legermuseum.nl/strategion/strategion/i007464.html

Cheers, Jan

 

[DreamPhoto]

Thank you very much for your effort guys !
Particularly I wish give thanks to Racefiets !

Cheers !

 

[DreamPhoto]

Sorry, I forgot to give answer to ToniE , diameter of the muzzle ring is 14 mm.