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75mm Shell Identification?

CPCOrd

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Hello, the shell with fuze is 12in high. The projectile is 8 1/4in w/out the fuze. The fuze is a Mech Time Fuze, MK. 22 mod. 2 E.M. There are no markings on the shell except for a vertical number 47585-9 which I suspect could be a drawing number. The driving band is approx. 3in in length. It has a slight taper on the bottom. The round weighs 10Lb w/out fuze and 11.5lbs with fuze. There is a screw through the driving band and shell which you can see in the picture. Any assistance in identifying this shell is appreciated. Is this a canister shot round or just a training round? DSC08477.jpgDSC08476.jpg Regards, CC
 
It looks like the pointy end of a 3 Inch 50Cal U.S. Navy loading dummy. That's the only reason for the thick brass collar resembling a cartridge case.
 
Thank you ... that would make sense regarding the fuze, etc. Sometimes you overlook the obvious!
 
The reason that the drill rounds have real fuzes, is because the rounds are stuck into an automatic fuze setter before being loaded into the gun. These were WWII before the proximity fuze was invented.
 
Hazord

Your explanation is reasonable but, the drill machines do not require an operating fuze setter. Many drill projectiles are solid steel or brass. Typical drill cartridges have a dummy fuze. There is a dummy version of the MK 22 that is usually stamped to ID it. (On the left in the photo). I believe that is what CPCOrd has.

JMHO

Ray
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Yes, dummy fuzes are usually used in the dummy rounds, but the one you show still has the cutout in the timing ring for the fuze setter to engage.
 
Yes, many dummy fuzes were made from obsolete real fuzes or parts of real fuzes. But regardless, the drill machines usually do not have a working fuze setter. The cutouts on the fuze are there but there are no corresponding lugs on the drill machine to engage them. Not much different than when the dummy fuzes are solid or, in the case of the big calibers, when the projectiles are one piece of solid brass.

ray
 
I appreciate the responses. I have been traveling and was able to borrow a pc. The fuze appears to be a working type fuze but it does have the word dummy hand stamped in the brass part. I will post additional pics when I return home.
 
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