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2pdr pom pom photo, serious amount of brass

butterfly

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Thought you may be interested in seeing this image whilst I was posting photos of ships. Another one that came with the damaged photos I just posted. This one is postcard format and written on the back in pencil is 'pom pom gun after wave attack Med 1941'
serious amount of brass!!

Kev

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If they were quad mounts, it wouldn't take too long to make a good sized pile!
 
Yes, eigth barreled mountings, probably from Valiant or QE battleships.

Thanks for your comment.
I have found 8 barrelled versions being used on a lot of the Capital ships including QE Battleships, Rodney and also Aircraft Carriers such as Illustrious. No doubt this firepower was welcome during air attack.

Kev
 
I have a couple of metal links from the 2 Pdr that I picked up this Summer. I didn't know they had 8-mounts! I would hate to be flying near those things.

Something strange, I have another metal link that I always thought was 2 Pdr, until I got the real 2 Pdr marked ones. It is slightly larger so that a 2 Pdr round will fall right through it. Anyone have any idea what it could be?
 
Both HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse, sunk by Japanese torpedo plane attacks on 10 December 1941, had 8 barrel pom-poms. POW very quickly lost power to its 5.5" AA batteries, leaving only the pom-poms working, but they were let down by the ammunition. The following extracts from "The Sinking of the Prince of Wales and Repulse", Martin Middlebrook and Patrick Mahoney, 1977:

"A further difficulty was that many of the pom-poms were having problems with their ammunition: their small shells were becoming separated from their cartridges while being fed into the quick-firing weapons and were jamming the barrels. There were frequent stoppages; one of POW's pom-poms suffered twelve such failures, another suffered eight. This was particularly unfortunate because the low-flying Japanese aircraft were ideal targets for pom-poms. The weapon mounted on top of B Turret jammed just as one of the Japanese aircraft swept low over POW's bow, and the officer in charge, Lt Ian Forbes, later claimed that 'this could have been shot down with ease'."

"As the Japanese flew in those 4-in. guns that could bear opened fire and were soon joined by the close range weapons. These, too, had their troubles, however; the best placed pom-pom immediately had stoppages in six of its eight barrels because of separated cartridges - the same complaint suffered by POW's pom-poms. The only other pom-pom's electrical motor had been damaged by the earlier bomb hit and the changeover to manual operation had not yet ben implemented. The result of all these problems was that the Repulse was able to put up only the weakest of barrages."



Tom.
 
Both HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse, sunk by Japanese torpedo plane attacks on 10 December 1941, had 8 barrel pom-poms. POW very quickly lost power to its 5.5" AA batteries, leaving only the pom-poms working, but they were let down by the ammunition. The following extracts from "The Sinking of the Prince of Wales and Repulse", Martin Middlebrook and Patrick Mahoney, 1977:

"A further difficulty was that many of the pom-poms were having problems with their ammunition: their small shells were becoming separated from their cartridges while being fed into the quick-firing weapons and were jamming the barrels. There were frequent stoppages; one of POW's pom-poms suffered twelve such failures, another suffered eight. This was particularly unfortunate because the low-flying Japanese aircraft were ideal targets for pom-poms. The weapon mounted on top of B Turret jammed just as one of the Japanese aircraft swept low over POW's bow, and the officer in charge, Lt Ian Forbes, later claimed that 'this could have been shot down with ease'."

"As the Japanese flew in those 4-in. guns that could bear opened fire and were soon joined by the close range weapons. These, too, had their troubles, however; the best placed pom-pom immediately had stoppages in six of its eight barrels because of separated cartridges - the same complaint suffered by POW's pom-poms. The only other pom-pom's electrical motor had been damaged by the earlier bomb hit and the changeover to manual operation had not yet ben implemented. The result of all these problems was that the Repulse was able to put up only the weakest of barrages."



Tom.

Thanks Tom,

........with regard to the above post I thought these photographs rather fitting. They show HMS Prince of Wales taken from what I believe to be Hms Rodney's Pom Pom position, around the end of September 1941 in the Western Med, just three months before the POW was sunk.

regards Kev
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