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1.5" VALE signal cartridges

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oktato

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Hi,

Hopefully, someone can help me with identification of these signal cartridges.

1. Is the "Smoke Flash No.1 MK.1" 1" cartridge used in practice aircraft bombs?

2. What does "VALE" stand for on the 2 Brocks' signal cartridges?

3. Which manufacturer uses the initials "JNS" on the 38.1 mm signal cartridges in the second photo?

Thanks,

Gary


VALE carts.jpg38.1 mm sig carts.jpg
 
Im sure I have read somewhere that the 1" smk and flash were used in a prac A/C Bomb, but I can't remember where. Perhaps the vale carts are brown smoke puff ? just guessing on the brown bands ? Had a quick look through some Janes Infantry Weapons but cannot find JNS as a maunfacturer, maybe Japan, Singapore or even South Africa ? sorry, doesn't help much.
 
JNS is a dutch pyrotechnical manufacturer (they also made f.i. the NR11C2 Thunderflash).
It stands for: J.N. Schuurmans pyrotechniek SA, Leeuwaarden, Holland
 
Thanks Tony and Geert.

Regarding the VALE cartridges, I think the VALE should actually mean something. The cartridges have the military-format manufacturer marking for Brocks so I guess they're military issue not civilian. The military brown smoke puff cartridge that I have is clearly marked brown smoke puff. Couldn't the brown band on these cartridges simply be a hazard marking band?

Regarding the JNS marking, that's great news. I thought they might be from Singapore but I'm happy they're Dutch!

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Gary
 
oktato said:
Thanks Tony and Geert.

Regarding the VALE cartridges, I think the VALE should actually mean something. The cartridges have the military-format manufacturer marking for Brocks so I guess they're military issue not civilian. The military brown smoke puff cartridge that I have is clearly marked brown smoke puff. Couldn't the brown band on these cartridges simply be a hazard marking band?

Regarding the JNS marking, that's great news. I thought they might be from Singapore but I'm happy they're Dutch!

Thanks for your help.

Cheers,

Gary
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Maybe part of a simulation device ? I'm sure we will find out sooner or later.
 
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